Bisexual and Pansexual..same thing? ~Sevan

I've noticed an issue that seems to be coming up to a fever pitch lately...and it's an issue between two sexual identities. Bisexual

 and Pansexual.


What I'm hearing so far...the argument goes a little like this:

Pansexual: Since Bi means "two" it's binary, and not inclusive of trans* and other identities.

Bisexual: That's not true!!! How dare you tell us what our identity is! Bi can mean two..sure, but as in "same as, and different than...which includes everyone!

Pansexual: Dude...chill out. It's fine if you don't dig trans* people...every gender/sex isn't for everyone. It's fine. Don't sweat it.

Bisexual: Why are you being insistent on Bi-erasure!!!!

Ok so that's a SERIOUSLY over simplified version, and only from my perspective...and I'm pretty sure I'm missing some of the information since this whole disagreement really makes no sense to me at all. The way I'm seeing it is that many Bi people seem to feel/believe that Pansexual IS the same as Bi, and therefore, there's no need for the additional sexuality.

Also, bi-erasure is in there somewhere...and trans* politics being put above bi politics is also in there somehow.

Now that it's all clear as mud...you're on the same page as me.

As a trans* person, let me tell you about some of the relationship types I've seen. I've met a couple who was straight. One was pre-everything trans woman, and a cis man. His sexual identity never changed to encompass his trans wife, because she's a woman regardless of her body.

I know a few couples that are gay men that are with trans guys, and they felt no need to change their sexuality due to dating trans guys...because trans guys are GUYS.

As a genderqueer person, who's married to a trans*woman. I personally identify as pansexual. In LGBT spaces I often identify as Queer because it's easiest...I'm genderqueer, I'm pansexual, I'm polyamourous...I'm Queer!

If someone's identity is bisexual, and they feel they can and/or have been attracted to trans* people and feel their identity is bisexual. Awesome. That's great for them. I would never presume to tell someone what their identity is.

To me, looking at a word in a literal manner...bi means two=binary man/woman system. That's what it means to me which is why I don't feel it fits me. If it doesn't mean that to you, that's ok. We don't have to use just one word at a time to understand each other. We can, in fact...have whole conversations with many words in order to get our point across and see eye to eye.

Once again I'm so happy for the community I'm a part of. The organizations I interact with actively seek out participation who are gay, lesbian, bi, and trans*. All are equal and important. I don't understand why it seems to be this way elsewhere, or at the very least...just that some seem to feel it to be this way. We really really can get alone and work together for better visibility. Honest.

Sexual Shaming is Nonsense!

So one of the things I had recently thrown in my face, by a transsexual none the less, was that Sevan and I transitioned to put some spice in our sex life, that there must have been boredom in the bedroom.

I wouldn't expect to see the 'transsexuals do it for a sexual thrill' meme coming from a transsexual. But this is the opinion of many people who are not transsexual. Apparently an opinion held by at least one transsexual woman, which leads me to question her motives for transitioning. But I am not her therapist...

I would be a liar to say that there is not a sexual component to my transition, that just goes with the territory of the human experience.
That transsexuals should have sexual desires and needs should come of no surprise to anyone.
What we should be chaste and pure as fresh snow?
Well pardon me for living!

The conversation that lead to the smear is not important, what is important is that society constantly engages in sexual shaming to silence and other. Which is silly when you think about it. Using another persons sexuality as some form of leverage in a conversation is like pointing out that an opponent breathes air and claiming they are wrong for doing so.

My transition is no different than any other person's transition. It is about bringing my body and mind into congruence and being seen by society as the woman I am. Anything else is just gravy.

/end rant

Silenced and erased.

I just hate it when I make a well thought out counter point to another bloggers post and they refuse to publish it. Especially if I have taken care to be respectable and not use ad homenem attacks and straw man arguments I should not be censored. If I am so wrong as to be censored then perhaps I am right even in the mind of the censor and as such the censor is somehow placed in peril.
I hate it when people moderate comments on their bloggs. They make it look like the world agrees with them without any dissent. They seek to look like purvey ours of sacred dogma and text it seems to me.

Why is it that some people are so insecure in their 'unassailable' opinions that they can not even stand a taste of scrutiny? If your opinions are so rock solid, use them to soundly trounce me for having the audacity to question you on such a lofty subject.

We are living in a time when people will only listen to those who parrot what they believe. Critical thought and scrutiny of that which is supposedly sacred is verboten.

This is a shame. No idea or opinion should be free of scrutiny or in depth analysis.

I hate it when people seek to silence and erase those who do not agree with them.

This space I leave free to anyone to say whatever. As long as you are not coming here and posting national secrets publicly, I could give 2 shits what you say. I believe that those who disagree with me deserve their say.
Wish I got the same respect.